Talk:Hybrid

Origin of the term "pseudo-hybrid"?

There have been multiple attempts made to include the term "pseudo-hybrid" into all hybrid related articles and yet no actual cite has been attached to them.

Where did this term originate from? In-game? A specific page of the books? Any actual information is appreciated. Meguumin (talk) 09:47, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Both the Solatorobo artbooks (Starlet's World Guide section on the Red Data Children, IIRC) and the files seen in Fuga. Jeanne and Crusade's reports explicitly state that the hybrids Crusade created were "pseudo-hybrids", the latter source being explicit that they were based on hybrids created to control the Titano-Machina. The Solatorobo art books were what originally coined the terms "original hybrid" and "pseudo-hybrid", referring to Baion as an example of the former and the Seven Children as the latter.

The Japanese terms are:

• Pseudo-hybrid: 疑似ハイブリッド
• Original hybrid: オリジナルのハイブリッド

BlurryDawgo (talk) 10:13, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Where did you get the part about there being separate original hybrid versions of Nero and Blanck? Zoltier (talk) 11:28, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

They're referred to as「ネロ（オリジナル）」and「ブランク（オリジナル）」in the art books. Daybreak's Back Bone section brings them up (pages 288 and 296) as does Starlet page 179. Baion mentions them by name in the "Ragdoll Elegy" story—he states that "Lemures and Lares still need Nero and Blanck to regularly control them" after Béluga sacrifices Terina to the Rite of Forfeit. Since the story takes place nearly three hundred years before he meets Merveille and they begin their experiments, he can't be referring to the Nero and Blanck we see in the game. BlurryDawgo (talk) 12:45, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Will look into this pretty soon, thank you for sourcing the pages.

The only other known time that Nero and Blanck are remade is during Shepherd Report, where data at the Futzu Tower remakes them at a toddler stage. Don't believe any of the Back Bone pages were translated through human effort yet so it will be a bit before we can say this other info is for certain. Meguumin (talk) 13:08, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

We… need more ample translators on our team. That much is certain.

Besides, I'd love to work together with them on making an unofficial English translation of the art books. I've honed quite a few visual editing skills in my own time. BlurryDawgo (talk) 13:31, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

There's no rush to have any large translations done, especially when so many basic pages that don't require any need to be filled up. Zoltier (talk) 13:38, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

As this page has shown, there's a lot of misinformation regarding certain aspects of Solatorobo in particular (e.g. the aforementioned "half-hybrid", "Why is Red's mom only twelve years older than him", "Red was meant to be a failure on purpose", "Baion existed before the Reset"). We should still aim to get help clearing it up at some point down the road. BlurryDawgo (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Yes, eventually, and we need time to have proper human translations done. The wiki needs to be taken a step at a time. Zoltier (talk) 14:18, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Unfortunately some of this false info gets transferred over from TV Tropes as well. Sad consequence of the Internet as always, but we'll continue cleanup as we have been. Meguumin (talk) 15:00, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Yeah, it's partially my fault too, I guess. I've been trying to make sure what's on TV Tropes is accurate for about three or so years (since the wiki had a bit of a hiccup in that time), and sometimes I do just… get it wrong. But even when I am wrong, I'm still doing my own research and I work to fix things pretty quickly. Other people often just copy and paste because it's easier. BlurryDawgo (talk) 15:57, 16 March 2025 (EDT)

Starlet page 175. BlurryDawgo (talk) 10:13, 16 March 2025 (EDT)